Warning: This is a long post!
Picture this, your running around Target’s maternity section to quickly find new clothes because a baby at work spit up a whole breast milk bottle all over you and, of course, you have no spare clothes in your car. While doing this you are on the phone with the Fetal Care Coordinator of your perinatologists office to go over your weeks appointments. The Fetal Care Coordinator at first is very nice and listens to you about your nephrologist appointment and your water check up. She then starts talking to you about appointments moving forward. She asks us about when the perinatologist wants to see us again (which, shouldn’t she know since she works for him?!) to which I say ’32 weeks but that I’m happy to move back earlier if they anticipate birth earlier than that’ all the while knowing that through the grape vine I had heard he actually wants to see me the week of the 25th (none of which was communicated directly to Ben nor I). She said she would talk to the doctor and check but that it would be smart to move back earlier. She then proceeds to say that they also want to set up an appointment with an infant cardiologist to monitor heart development which isn’t shocking. She then also mentions that they want us to meet with the NICU staff to talk about things like ‘the difference in cries between a healthy baby and a baby struggling to breath’ as well as to go over ‘end of life plans’. I stop in my tracks in Target. Of course I know these are things we may need to discuss in the future but the casual way she brought it up, as if she’s asking me how the weather is or how my day is going, threw me off. She then asks me if our perinatologist had talked about termination of the pregnancy. Again, another moment of ‘WTF’. First, if you work for our perinatologist shouldn’t you know this answer? Also, you clearly know I’m 23.5weeks because you said it earlier and that 23weeks even is the latest in the state of MN to terminate so shouldn’t that give you an answer? I told her we opted to not terminate as baby looks healthy and that since no one has any type of answers as to what’s going on we are continuing through the pregnancy (all while trying to be civil because at this point I am not happy). She said fine and then brought up coming up with end of life plans with the NICU staff and how far we are willing to go. She then said she would call my OB on Monday when she gets back from vacation and talk about transferring me back to the perinatologist and look into setting up cardiologist and NICU consults and she’d call back Monday. I hung up thinking ‘Wow, this woman really expects Natalie to not make it’. Also, as someone who spent over 15yrs as a Standardized Patient training medical students on inter personal skills, this woman is in desperate need of these trainings. Again, do I know these are conversations that need to happen, Yes. Do they need to be discussed over the phone so casually. Absolutely not. She should have simply said ‘We want to set up a meeting with the NICU staff to talk about what could happen in the NICU and go over all the possibilities’. That’s it. This whole conversation was just off putting but I brushed it off a bit until later when I got another phone call.
About 3-4 hrs later, Dr. Engebretson called back after talking to the perinatologist. She said that they discussed amnioinfusion and that they both agreed that since there is no proven benefit and that the risks are just too high. She also said they discussed steroid injections for the lungs and that since I am not showing any signs of labor they aren’t needed right now. She then said that they also discussed plans moving forward and that he never intended for us to not see him until 32weeks and that he wants us to get ultrasounds with him every 4 weeks. I told her that was never discussed with us but we can set those up. At this point I’m getting really frustrated. How could the doctor not tell us he wanted to see us every 4 weeks and if that was the case wouldn’t the morbid woman I spoke to from his office earlier today know that? Then in just wrapping up the conversation with Dr. Engebretson, she mentions that the perinatologist said that Natalie’s ‘prognosis isn’t good’. I stopped her. I asked her if he specifically said that to which she said yes and asked if he had said that to us. Holding back tears I said no and asked her to explain. She basically said that because of the amniotic fluid the lungs are an issue (which we know) and went into that the kidney issue is very dicey. From her tone, I think she was clearly unhappy that no one had directly voiced that to us. I told her that we knew all these risks but he kept saying to us that he simply had no answers and that baby could be fine or it could be the exact opposite. She then said if we aren’t comfortable staying with the perinatologist she and my OB are happy to keep us and do whatever they can. She was so kind and supportive as I am talking through tears. I thanked her and said we had a lot to think of. As I hung up my heart was in my stomach and I am angry. This explains why the woman this morning wanted to talk about termination, end of life plans, what babies sound like struggling to breathe, etc. How could our perinatologist essentially tell everyone ‘the prognosis is grim’ and yet tell us he couldn’t give us a prognosis because there are no definitive answers. This whole situation is hard enough without feeling like our perinatologist is hiding things from us. Do I know that our baby could die? Of course. This is why I haven’t brought myself to buy a single item or start getting the nursery ready. I know this is a very real possibility and it terrifies me. However, having EVERY doctor tell us all the possible outcomes but that they just don’t know because we have no answers gave me hope. Natalie looks healthy as can be and is growing appropriately. Maybe, despite the lack of fluid, she may be ok. Now, knowing our perinatologist is telling everyone the prognosis isn’t good has dashed my hope. I’m also upset that in his mind it’s for sure kidneys. When last we spoke he said he was his educated guess. That while looking at the kidneys and seeing that they work, it may be a filtration issue that we can’t see instead of a function issue. The nephrologist, ya know, the kidney specialist, said they look good and that since there was water in the stomach that’s a good sign. Now I just wonder if he saw something that he didn’t tell us that made him decide it’s 100% a kidney issue or if he is just guessing still. Again, I know it’s a possibility but I also know we have no proof of this, at least to my knowledge.
Ben and I talked for hours last night. Talked about where to go from here. Ben did bring up that this is one big game of telephone and that perhaps some messages are getting altered a bit down the line. Perhaps that is the case. I don’t know. We are going to talk to our OB and also our pediatrician to see if they have any recommendations or thoughts. We are also possibly going to try and get an appointment with Maternal Fetal Medicine which isn’t a perinatologist but is a practice at the University of MN that specializes in high risk pregnancies. At the end of the day, I just want a doctor who will be open and honest with me. Right now I feel as though our perinatologist isn’t being up front with us and is hiding information. This is an awful situation and I know that it’s very possible Natalie may not make it. I also know that there aren’t answers right now. We have no idea why I have no amniotic fluid so everything right now is educated guessing. I am, however, not ok with feeling like our doctor is hiding things from me. I also want to feel like I have a doctor who is willing to fight for Natalie and isn’t just expecting the worst. Overall, we are processing a lot. Ben is still the ever optimist and holding onto hope. Honestly, my hope is fragile right now. Hopefully it’ll return but right now I’m just struggling and heartbroken. We will continue to fight and do what’s best for our daughter, whether that be switching practices or switching doctors within this practice. Perhaps this is all a messy, awful game of telephone. Who knows. All we know is that we have a lot to think about this weekend as we move forward.